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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world are convening...
for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
- We are Junyoosung! - We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
Year 2017 has finally come.
I'm curious what kind of issues will be waiting for us this year.
On this episode of Non Summit Meeting, we will be discussing about...
the world trend for 2017.
We have representatives from the countries that are leading the changes.
I wonder how the representatives are forecasting the year 2017.
Let's talk about it.
It's the New Year special, so we've invited more representatives today.
- That's right. - This country surprised the whole world with Brexit.
Let's meet the UK representative first.
This is Tristan, the UK representative. Please introduce yourself.
Hello. I'm Tristan.
I'm from England.
I used to work in the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office.
Now I'm a graduate student in Korea.
- Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
When you were working at the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office,
you even went to North Korea.
I've been to North Korea twice.
I was on my business trip.
In 2013, I went to North Korea to inspect...
their hydroelectric and thermoelectric power plants.
I still write articles about it from time to time.
- Welcome. - His pronunciation is very good.
There's another large country that's stuck between China and the US.
- Our Russian representative Olga joined us. - Welcome.
Olga.
Please introduce yourself.
(Hello, I'm Olga. I'm from Russia.)
(I got my master's degree at Seoul National University last year.)
Hello, I'm Olga. I'm from Russia.
I got my master's in international affairs at Seoul National University last year.
Through the discussions today,
I will try to tell you how Russians are feeling about various issues.
(Nervous.)
- Thank you. - Her Korean is good.
These days, we're seeing...
a lot of news about Russia, especially after Mr. Trump became the president-elect.
- There are news about the election. - Yes.
They say Russia had intervened in US presidential campaign.
Do you want to say anything to the American representative?
Already?
Please say hello to each other.
- It's nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
As you know, Russia and the US are at odds with one another on many issues.
Through the discussions today, I hope we reach an agreement.
Thank you.
She speaks like a diplomat.
- You are right. - Yes.
You should say something, too.
I thought Russia was our close friend.
You look scared.
Well...
I think the relationship between the two countries...
has become somewhat difficult recently.
I have a lot of questions to ask.
Please do ask.
All right. I have to say Olga speaks like a politician,
but Mark looks like a financier apparently.
- He's just trying to be amicable. - Yes.
- I'm glad to have a representative from this country. - Yes.
They overcame difficulties in 2016. They're planning to leap forward in 2017.
This is Ceren, the Turkish representative. Good to see you.
(Hello, I'm from Turkey. My name is Ceren.)
(I'm an exchange student at Sungkyunkwan University.)
Hello, I'm from Turkey. My name is Ceren.
I first taught Korean to myself three years ago...
because I was interested in Korea.
Now I'm majoring in Korean.
I'm an exchange student at Sungkyunkwan University at the moment.
- It's nice to meet you. - Her Korean is...
- All Turks I know speak good Korean. - It's true.
Why is that? Is the grammar structure similar?
Turkish and Korean share the same grammar structure.
I think that's probably...
one of the reasons that Turks feel...
Korean is easier to learn.
I'm glad...
- I'm learning Korean. - I was surprised...
to hear that she's been in Korea for only four months.
I've been studying English for 10 years now, but it's really bad.
I don't get it.
Have a conversation with Mark.
- Hey brother, what's up? - Hey, good boy.
(Embarrassed)
- Good boy? - Goodness.
I'm sorry.
This country is not only known for its beautiful resorts.
Malaysia is a rising star in Asia. Khalid from Malaysia joined us.
Nice to meet you.
(My name is Muhamad Khalid Bin Ismail.)
(I'm from Malaysia.)
(I've been living in Korea for 10 years now.)
(Nice to meet you.)
Hello, I'm Khalid from Malaysia.
I'm running a business at the moment.
What do you want to say as the South East Asian representative?
When Koreans hear about South East Asian countries,
- they only think of as vacation destinations. - Yes.
But actually, South East Asia is economically strong as well.
As the South East Asian representative,
I'm planning to actively participate in the discussion today.
I see.
Our next representative is from a country, full of cheerful spirit.
This country is expected to record the biggest growth in Africa this year.
Anita from Ghana joined us. Nice to meet you.
Please introduce yourself.
(I'm Anita Emefa Hato.)
(I'm from Agbozume-Nogokpo, Volta.)
I'm Anita Emefa Hato from Ghana.
Currently, I'm doing my master's degree...
in education technology at Ewha Women's University.
With my cheerful spirit,
I will try my best to make sure that the discussion goes well today.
- Thank you. - Welcome.
Your school is at the center of controversy.
- What's the atmosphere like in the college? - It's embarrassing.
This semester, the spirit of Ewha...
- was greatly damaged. - That's right.
Our school was at the center of controversy.
However, things have gotten better these days.
I learned that people were able to overcome obstacles through democracy.
It will get better.
It's been a while since we met a representative from this country.
They don't seem to care about what's going on in the world or in Korea.
This country finds peace all year around.
The Norwegian representative, Nikolai joined us today. Long time no see.
- Good to see you. - Long time no see.
(Hello, I'm Nikolai. I'm from Norway.)
(I'm studying Koreanology at Korea University.)
Hello, I'm Nikolai. I'm from Norway.
I'm studying Koreanology at Korea University.
How have you been?
I went to India and Nepal.
I went on a backpacking trip to India for a month.
- Didn't you have a stomachache in India? - No.
I even prepared some medicine because I was worried.
But I was fine throughout my trip.
It was great.
(Today's representatives)
(Nikolai from Norway)
(Lucky from India)
(Mark from USA)
(Anita from Ghana)
(Alberto from Italy)
(Oogi from Japan)
(Aurélien from France)
(Olga from Russia)
(Wang Xinlin from China)
(Ceren From Turkey)
(Khalid from Malaysia)
(Tristan from UK)
We're going to discuss about the trends for 2017.
We can't leave out the Korean representative.
- We've invited our representative. - That's right.
He was on the Independence Day special, but he has more to say.
So we've invited him again.
He explains difficult and complex issues in an easy way.
- He's Writer Cho Seung-yeon. - Welcome.
(The 131st Korean representative, Cho Seung-yeon)
(Cho Seung-yeon, Korean, writer)
(Long time no see.)
Please introduce yourself.
Hello.
My hobby is to learn different languages through world history.
- I'm Writer Cho Seung-yeon. Nice to meet you. - Welcome.
Seung-yeon, since your appearance on Independence Day special,
- many people have reacted positively. - Yes.
Did you feel the rising popularity?
Yes, I felt it a lot.
Since my appearance on Non Summit Meeting,
even young people said hello to me.
So I thought it was a great opportunity.
A lot of viewers like our Independence Day special.
I wanted to come on the show again. Thank you.
- A lot of viewers have said that he was great on the show. - That's right.
Today's issue is about the trends for 2017.
Can you tell us how historians expect the world trend to be?
When we face an issue,
it feels as if the issue has never occurred in human history.
- But these issues have happened before in history. - The history repeats.
So when you read history books, you may feel like...
there's no conclusion.
While talking to these representatives from different countries,
I will try to draw a conclusion for 2017.
It's great to have this opportunity.
- You look very excited. - That's right.
I'm sure you've prepared a lot for today's discussion.
Yes, I was waiting to be invited again.
He must be thinking, "How many more people will recognize me after this?"
He's thinking if he should wear sunglasses or not.
Now we will begin the 131st Non Summit Meeting.
(Let's start the discussion.)
We will be talking about world trends for 2017 today.
What are the global issues in 2017?
Historically, I think it will be an important year.
So far, the world history was written...
by ideological conflict and confrontation.
I think the ideological conflict will disappear in 2017.
It will mark the beginning of conflict between the open and the closed.
My generation used to sing...
"Hand in Hand" when we were young.
- We were trying memorize the word "globalization". - Yes.
It was in every English test.
Our generation grew up thinking that globalization is a great thing no matter what.
But we're facing a difficult situation now.
All of a sudden, people are saying "I don't like globalization."
"I held their hands. His breath stinks and his hands are sweaty."
"I don't want to hold their hands."
These people politicized themselves and supported Mr. Trump.
And they supported Brexit, too.
I think the ideological conflict has ended.
We're in the open door versus closed door policy.
I believe this will be the trend for 2017.
- He makes it easy to understand, right? - Yes, it is really fun.
The global for 2017 is whether the world should have an open door policy.
Or should countries pursue a closed door policy?
The first signal for this was Brexit.
The UK had told the EU that they wanted to leave.
(This decision shook the world in 2016)
(The UK decided to withdraw from the EU.)
(Will Brexit...)
(be the trend for 2017?)
(In 2017, after Brexit...)
Tristan, what was your opinion on this?
I voted yes to the decision to leave.
- That's surprising. - Really?
In truth, I personally support the UK's decision to leave the EU.
I think this is a wonderful project.
For the last 30 years, the UK...
has been against the formation of a European coalition.
So, the UK shouldn't be a part of the EU...
for this coalition to continue to grow.
Are you saying the UK left for the benefit of the EU.
I think I've heard of this before.
It feels like the saying, "I love you but I have to let you go."
"I'm breaking up with you for your sake."
Women hate it when guys say that.
(It's a cowardly excuse.)
I'm being honest. Secondly,
if the value of the pound drops...
then the exporting and tourism industry will be invigorated.
Since the pound is weak, please come visit the UK.
Whenever we have a representative from the UK, they tell us to visit.
Didn't the value rise again after it had dropped?
Yes, it did. Don't lose this opportunity.
"Don't lose this opportunity."
From the tourism bureau in the UK.
(The value of the pound is in fact rising again.)
You've made such a positive case for this, what do the other European nations think?
Some men will say this as they break up.
As you said before, "I love you but..."
"I have to let you go."
Men say this when they don't want to take responsibility.
(Laughing)
They were looking for more benefits...
and when it is time to take responsibility, they said no.
They had no inclination of wanting to take responsibility.
- "I did love you but..." - India also understands how they feel.
The UK had used a country for their benefit and thrown them away before.
- I see, they did it in the past. - Yes.
We don't know what the implications from Brexit will be.
But the country who will suffer from this...
is the UK not the EU.
- It's because the UK was the center of the financial sector of the EU. - Right.
They had been playing a crucial role.
Especially when communicating with other countries like the US, China or Russia.
But now they are no longer the center of the financial sector of the EU.
Also, the pound had dropped a little and come back up again.
With the EU, it had dropped and the value has continued to stay consistent.
So, when you look at countries like France, Italy and Spain.
Countries that export a lot of goods, they have benefited from this.
The amount of exported good in Italy is on the rise.
Paris's economy has also received a boost from this.
They have started an advertisement campaign to lure in more companies.
If you are tired of the fog in London,
then come and meet the frogs in France.
- Work in France. - Yes, we are targeting the companies based in London.
- Trying to lure them in. - We have started this campaign.
There are a lot of countries trying to make a profit even in this situation.
Do you agree with what Alberto had said?
(Sighing)
(A deep sigh that is sorrowful enough to crack the floor.)
He has raised a lot of good points.
The UK was a very big and important...
export market for the EU.
So, when you think about all the advantages offered by the EU,
I believe in the end, the two sides will come up with an amicable agreement.
I think that the two sides will work together economically.
Yes, you're right. I believe that will be the case, too.
Norway didn't join the EU.
In 1994,
they voted on whether or not they should join the EU.
Almost 52 percent of the people was against joining the EU.
Yes, 52 percent.
There was a lot of debate about this and a lot of people discussed this.
Through the Schengen Agreement, we can cross into the borders...
of other European countries to travel without a passport.
They will probably come up with a similar agreement to that.
It's not a break up but rather it is a small change. So, it is not a big problem.
I think Norway is a very unique country.
Because when you look at France, Italy and Germany,
they gave their opinions and argued about how the EU should be run.
But the countries in Scandinavia...
feel like spectators.
- They feel like spectators. - Observers.
When you think of people from Scandinavia,
The reason...
- That was funny. - Yes.
We don't have a responsibility or reason to join the EU.
Italy and France...
always act emotionally.
So, these countries always make a mess.
That's why it is better for us to just watch them.
We don't have any problems.
Are you saying they are countries that too get emotional and make a mess of things?
- I think he will admit to this. - We have to admit to this.
We just don't want to give up on our emotions.
I'm jealous of Northern Europe.
- Korea is always placed in the middle of historic incidents. - Right.
We were stuck in the middle of the Cold War.
We're also in the middle of a strained relationship between the US and China.
But North Europe always seems to be at the edge of these historic conflicts.
- Norway is also a country with oil. - Right, they can just relax in the sauna.
(It's a peaceful country without war.)
- They can just catch and eat fish. - Money just comes in.
I think the most active time for the Norwegians were during the Viking era.
They were very hard-working back then.
They didn't have any conflicts inside Norway.
They went outside of Norway and caused conflicts.
Aurélien, wasn't there a suggestion that you wanted to make to the EU?
After Brexit, inside the EU,
there are no longer any countries that has English as their national language.
- So, why are we still using English? - That's true.
- Why are we still using English. - You have German and French.
- Ireland is still a member of the EU. - In Ireland, they use Gaelic.
- Celtic? - Their official language is Gaelic.
- In Europe... - What language would you like them to use?
- Well... - How about Chinese?
Chinese.
When we first made the rules,
we had to write up the laws in English, German and French.
But these days, everything is written up in English.
They write up all the laws in English.
But, you didn't use English just for the UK's sake.
- It was to try and maintain good relations with the US as well. - Right.
But we... I'm a bit lonely because Nik isn't here.
(He's misses the tenacious German fighter.)
- When Aurélien raised this point, - Yes, he did.
there is a reason why Alberto objected so strongly to this.
Before English formally became the official language Europe.
For about 2 to 300 years before this, the official language was French.
So, whether you were Italian or German,
there was a period when people couldn't succeed if they couldn't speak French.
Aurélien is saying since the UK has left,
let's take that position up again.
- Let's take it back. - That's what you want, right?
You want to be the leaders of Europe again.
(The glory of French Empire)
- That's scary. - I also think that France is still pining for those glory days.
- France always talks about that... - French people can't get over that.
The language of diplomacy is French.
- They keep saying... - We created diplomacy.
We are no longer living in that period.
That's why, Mark,
- you also learned French. - Yes, I did.
I did learn French.
I did learn it because it was the language of diplomacy.
Later on, I found out that wasn't true.
Right. How did it become the language of diplomacy?
About 120 years ago, the common language was French.
- That was 120 years ago. - Aurélien, you should set up a meeting...
and argue that the official language of the EU should be German.
I feel like it should be French and German.
- Why... - So, do you just want to take out English?
- Yes. - Get rid of English.
- I don't think Aurélien knows this... - Okay, Italian as well.
The European language system has been established really well.
Whether it is documentation, communicating verbally or writing a letter,
you just need to choose one of the 24 languages.
The EU uses one percent of their budget for language communication.
- It's really well done. - Aurélien is saying that we should make it 23.
- Let's take out English. - Another reason...
If there was a nation like the UK who wanted to leave the EU,
- there is also a nation that wants to join, Turkey. - Right.
Turkey has been trying for a very long time to join the EU.
We put a lot of effort into this.
The EU had said if we help the refugees,
they'll give us an opportunity to join the EU.
But they decided to halt the negotiations.
Our President also said publicly...
that he would let the refugees into Europe if you keep doing this.
Also, just recently,
he said that Turkey would now try and make closer ties with Russia and China.
Rather than the EU?
The Chinese Minister of Foreign Affairs publicly said...
that he knew this is what Turkey wants.
And he said China would try hard to make this happen.
We made a positive public statement on this.
For China, if we can become friends with another nation state,
we'll always try to make friends. That's how I feel.
If China refuses to be your friend, then will you become another Switzerland?
That is so annoying.
They are in the middle.
They could become the next Switzerland.
What does Russia think about this? Could you accept Turkey?
(Laughing)
I think before we make a decision, there is something we need to be sure of.
Turkey, do you really want to join the EU?
- Or Europe... - Or are you just saying you want to join?
Are you trying to blackmail yourself into the EU?
If you really want to join, we of course should let you join.
Because you'd be a great help...
in resolving a lot of the disputes with China.
I think we could solve this problem in a faster way.
- You want to see if they are serious. - Yes.
- Yes, but... - Serious...
This all sounds like relationship problems.
"Are you serious about me?"
Seung-yeon, how do you feel about this after hearing about Brexit.
My heart hurts when I think about the EU breaking down.
For a Northeast Asian person, the EU...
was like hope.
Even 50 years ago, countries that had battled each other...
over divided ideologies and nationalism, were able to come together,
hand in hand, to live in peace. The EU was a living example of that.
If the EU had preserved and overcome...
the various difficulties, it would have given us greater hope.
We could overcome our particular historical injustices...
with the hope of living in peace.
However, with the first onset of economic hardship,
they gave up.
It's a very difficult issue, since...
national benefit is a priority in international relations.
To be able to stay responsible and...
work together is such a difficult task.
It would have nice had Great Britain dutifully stayed.
They could have worked together a bit more, despite the difficulties.
What if other member states take Great Britain as an example.
That's what I'm worried about.
Another event that's affecting the closing of Brexit is Donald Trump.
(He proposed building a wall, deporting Muslims, and protectionist policies.)
(He cries out for an America that's not for the world,)
(but for America itself.)
(The 45th US President Donald Trump)
How did various countries react to Donald Trump's election.
After Trump got elected, the Malaysian ringgit fell...
by about five percent in a month.
(The trade-hub Malaysia was hit hard,)
(with the highest fall in currency in Asia.)
Americans voted for Trump and his slogan of making America great again,
so Malaysians feel that the US won't be investing in foreign countries as much.
The problem for Malaysia is that...
we're very dependent...
on foreign labor.
With the decreased value of the Ringgit,
the value of their incomes have also fallen.
Due to these problems, many foreign laborers...
are trying to leave Malaysia.
Without a workforce,
there's no way to run the factories.
We are really looking forward to a solution on the part of the US.
After Trump was elected, he espoused protectionist trade policies,
and the idea was for multinational American companies...
to return to America.
Realistically, I think it's impossible to accomplish.
If all American companies abroad return to the US, the price of...
goods will increase.
Ultimately, the one that's harmed from the price increase...
is the US.
What do you think about...
talk of the One-China policy?
Right. China was angered when Trump talked to a politician in Taiwan.
It was the first time in 37 years for a president elect...
to directly talk over the phone with a regional leader.
It was a big issue in China.
Immediately, China announced the One-China policy...
and stated that the US must respect that.
I think it would have been better...
had Trump focused only on the lives of Americans.
I don't think he should intervene in other nation's affairs.
You're right. Trump said himself that...
Taiwan is already purchasing billions of dollars...
worth of American weapons.
He asked why it's so bad to receive the call of the country's leader.
China doesn't like him referring to her as their leader.
- Yes. - That's right.
On top of that, he sent that remark on Twitter.
(Trump posts a new Tweet.)
You can't see it if you're not following him.
(First Tweet)
(Second Tweet)
Many Americans are critical of how he answered the call from Taiwan.
Posting a spur-of-the-moment Tweet...
to weaken the One-China policy that's been built for 50 years...
isn't right in my opinion.
I think it was an issue that was going to happen at some point.
There's also the term "Chinamerica".
When asked which country is the world's economic...
leader, they say Chinamerica because it's hard to separate...
the economic influence of the two countries.
Strategically, however, they are enemies.
The reason the topic of Taiwan wasn't mentioned...
thus far is because no one wants to bring up the contradiction.
It's better for both countries to not talk about this issue.
However, Trump unearthed the topic.
- I doubt he said it with much thought. - That's right.
The problem is he said it without a solution.
What I want to say to Xinlin is that the relationship...
between the US and China is that imperative,
aside from Trump.
- We should... - How could Trump not be involved?
- Shouldn't it be the other way around? - Are you representing the Democratic party?
Shouldn't Trump be saying, "Aside from Mark,"?
However,
the presidency lasts four years to...
eight years at most. Since we should look towards the long term,
I hope we maintain a good relationship.
At some point, Russia has been omitted from these talks.
What is Russia's position?
They say the key is in the US and China. What does Russia think?
After the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia is beginning to...
implement multilateral relations for the first time.
Russia's stance is to broaden Russia's national interests.
Russia will work together with the US if it's to Russia's national benefit.
The same goes for China.
Americans are personally more worried about Russia...
more than China because...
recently, we were hacked by Russia during the elections.
As Russia has been more supportive of Trump,
there were reports that Russia tried to influence the American elections.
Does Russian know about this?
I don't understand why many blame Russia for this.
When I first heard the report,
I looked up the Russian news, but I didn't see any reports...
about Putin authorizing the hack.
- There were no news on that? - There are no news acknowledging our involvement.
However, what Russians don't understand is...
how many are blaming Russia when...
it's still being investigated and it hasn't been clearly established.
Why are they pointing fingers when we don't know.
The reason Obama is saying that we have confirming evidence...
on this is...
(What we've simply said is the facts.)
(The Russians were responsible for hacking.)
It's not information from only one source, like the CIA, but from...
the NSA, FBI, and various other...
intelligence sources.
There are very few instances when the evidence is this confirming.
The only person who denies Russian involvement is Trump. He's like,
"I'm sure it wasn't them."
He's the only one denying it.
However, if Russia did in fact was behind the hacking,
doesn't that say something about Russian capability?
See! Did you see that?
She's not acknowledging it but saying they're the best.
I mean, hypothetically.
Did you see that?
It's true. Many of the best hackers in the world...
are from Russia.
There's another problem with it. When the US says Russia was responsible,
were the hackers simply in Russia,
were the hackers Russian,
or were they hired by the Russian government?
Just saying Russia was responsible for hacking,
it becomes a sensitive issue for us as well.
When watching American news, Russians get the feeling that...
Americans blame Russia for everything.
That's right. We feel the same way!
She's right.
It's all because of Russia.
Whenever something happens to America, it's our fault.
It could be completely unrelated, but if they're harmed...
it's always the fault of either China or Russia.
They're more like a married couple.
In my opinion, America's relationship with China...
is sort of like two people who are just starting to date.
They're two unfamiliar friends and may have some misunderstandings.
However, they want to become closer.
However, what's was disappointing with Russia is...
that we were already very close,
after having overcome many difficult challenges like the Cold War.
(We worked together to ensure world peace...)
We had accomplished many feats together...
and we thought everything was fine,
but when we suddenly heard about the election being hacked it made us...
- wonder about what happened to our relationship. - He's such a good actor.
No, I'm being serious.
It's all because of America.
It's because of NATO.
(NATO was formed by the US and Western Europe created in 1949 to offset USSR.)
(NATO is still working to keep Russia in check.)
(It is currently comprised of 28 member states.)
Why is that the reason?
That's because after the attacks...
on September 11,
Putin wanted to build a closer relationship with the US.
The central point was this.
- What about Bush? - NATO constantly pressured Russia with missiles...
in Poland. They were always like that towards the Soviet Union and Russia.
From America's standpoint,
they may think they're doing well and being kind,
- but behind closed doors... - We weren't the only ones.
- they were different. - We weren't alone in it. Isn't France also in NATO?
Why are you criticizing us?
We didn't want to join to be honest.
It's not like it was a unilateral decision to protect only the US.
It looks to me like...
Aurélien and I both watched the same documentary.
(Laughter)
Yes, but also various other sources.
- What was it about? - I mostly...
get my international news through American media.
Therefore, I mostly thought of Putin as an antagonist.
However, when I saw a documentary on Putin from France,
- I saw him through a completely different perspective. - That's interesting.
According to the documentary, when Gorbachev...
decided to give up on the Soviet Union,
he stated that NATO would not longer be necessary.
That's when Senior Bush discerned that countries bordering...
the Soviet Union would be forbidden to join NATO...
and made a verbal agreement on this with Russia.
That's what Russian politicians believe.
When his son, George Bush, became the president,
Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia joined NATO.
The Russians couldn't help but see that as an affront to Russia.
Something else surprised me in that documentary.
During the Cold War, the US had the upper hand,
and this lead to the fall of the Soviet Union.
People in the vanquished countries...
feel a sense of national pain.
One day, Bill Clinton, during his presidency, must have had some vodka with Yeltsin.
Bill Clinton's face had grown bright red...
and while Yeltsin was giving his speech,
he did this.
(During Yeltsin's speech...)
(Boisterous laughter)
(It was later called the Boris-Billy Show.)
(As the speech was aired all over the world,)
(it left a clear mark on Russia's national consciousness.)
Seeing this footage, it's understandable to think that...
Russians would prefer a strong leader like Putin and that the US...
was trying to create this situation.
(We created the most fearful version of Russia with our own hands, Pat Buchanan.)
When reading about international developments,
it's dangerous to get your news from one country alone.
I saw a bit of the Russian news,
and it said Putin was the most influential man of 2016...
because everything Putin wanted came to pass. There was...
Brexit, Trump, and the civil war in Syria.
He may seem quiet,
- but everything happened according to his will. - He's scary.
- He also has support ratings of almost 80 percent. - That's why we're scared.
There's really nothing to be scared of. If you look at Russia,
it's been only 25 years since the fall of the Soviet Union.
That means we're a young nation.
It's been recently established.
We are not the Soviet Union. We're Russia.
Would it be possible to look at us from a new perspective?
I hope we can be good friends.
- Were you born in the Soviet Union or Russia? - Yes, I was born in the Soviet era.
- In the Soviet Union? - You're asking her age?
Whenever there are female guests, Aurélien always...
Don't be like that!
Have there been any good things that came out of...
- the election of Trump? - There are.
Thanks to Brexit and Trump,
we realized that polls and surveys cannot be trusted.
That's true.
When the results of Brexit were released,
it was a more understandable mistake.
However, looking at the results of the election along side that...
makes you realize poll ratings isn't something to be trusted.
I agree.
I also realized that not voting,
thinking that others will,
is very mistaken.
In a democracy, everyone needs to vote in order to achieve the best result.
I believe more people will start to vote from here on.
There are also countries awaiting general elections in 2017.
What countries are there?
(Countries awaiting elections in 2017)
There will be an early general election in March in Italy.
- I'm worried about it. - Why?
We also have a crazy person in the running.
If you say that and he gets elected...
You should be careful. Crazy people often win these days.
His name is Matteo Salvini.
He's a racist,
and his campaign slogan is leaving the EU.
He's on the extreme right.
There's a problem every time he opens his mouth.
Recently, a new policy was enacted in the European Parliament,
but he was very critical of it in the assembly.
As he was criticizing the policy,
the Belgian delegate said in Italian,
"We've been meeting almost everyday for the past year and half..."
"to create this policy,"
"but you never once attended the meetings."
- He didn't show? - He scolded Salvini for not working and being lazy.
He said that in Italian.
(Dear, Mr. Salvini...)
(I haven't seen you once in the past year.)
(You should be ashamed of yourself.)
(You're nothing but a lazy, idle man.)
(Way to go!)
- We were incredibly embarrassed. - With the way things are going, he might win.
I say he's already elected.
There is a general election in France in May.
The Socialist Party's Hollande has fallen sharply in support ratings.
It's at its worst.
That's gotten some people worried...
that a right-wing candidate might win like in the US.
Many people think the French are mostly left-wing.
- It's part of the country's image. - There is.
However, if we look at the history of French elections,
it's actually a very right-wing nation.
There's more worry about the possibility of Le Pen winning the election.
(We must prepare for our future with a passion for France.)
(White supremacy, exiting the EU, and restricting immigration...)
(made her into an ultra-right wing icon.)
(Marine Le Pen, a.k.a. the Donald Trump of France)
When I ask my friends in France about the election,
many of them say they will vote for Le Pen.
- Your friends must be young. - That's true.
Why do they support Le Pen?
They want to exit the EU.
It's not about right or left wing affiliations.
They're attracted to the promise of France living...
according to the traditions of France.
To give you an example,
I have a friend who has a vineyard.
Once France entered the EU,
a law was enacted to forbid to include a substance...
that is traditionally included in France's traditional wine-making process.
However, he has to use this method to grow...
his crops in order for his goods to be distributed throughout the EU,
he had to change the traditional wine-making procedures...
and bring in foreign machines.
Those who can't afford these instruments could no longer sell wine.
People who've been harmed in this way,
hear Le Pen and, regardless of all her other policies, support her...
because of her promise to leave the EU.
The terms "left" and "right" are historically derived from France.
Generally, the left-wing politicians...
sat on the left and that's where the term comes from.
I think perhaps France would be the first place for this idea to dissemble.
In other words, France could be one of the first countries to...
move from left-right politics to open-close politics.
I agree. That has already happened in the US.
Though we can say Trump is a Republican,
he's not the Republican we're used to.
The right-wing Republican party is what created...
- the FTA. - That's right.
However, Trump is rather on the side of stemming globalization.
Instead of this division between left and right, there are three new buzzwords...
going around in the US.
One is populism instead of democracy.
- They call it populism. - Yes. Then, there's nationalism.
Then, there is protectionism.
People are starting to believe in these.
They actually have quite an appeal because...
many are sick and tired of the fight between right and left.
Instead of that, people are looking for something more utilitarian...
and find these ideas more attractive.
Trying to understand the world according to left and right values...
- is impossible now. - It's outdated.
It's easier to understand the world in terms of open and close politics.
He's absolutely right. It's the era of open and close politics.
What worries me is that it seems like we're going back by a century.
Things were like that 100 years ago.
We were interested in self-survival...
and didn't care about others nations.
In my opinion, we're not in an economic crisis,
- but a crisis of community order. - That's right.
(What will Europe decide in 2017?)
In the midst of so much change, each nation is sure to have a country of interest.
That's why we've prepared,
"I have something to say to your country."
That's scary.
I have something to ask the US delegate.
So soon? Okay.
Why do you make it so hard for us to obtain an American visa?
Why is it so hard?
I applied for an American visa...
twice, but I was refused.
(As relations between various countries are on the rise,)
(there have been increased conflict in visa-related issues.)
(What do nations really think about visas?)
I was just a student,
and I just wanted to travel to the US.
It's sad to see people like us be barred from going to the US.
As a result, a fake embassy that creates...
fake visas has been established.
(A fake embassy?)
A fake visa?
- It's a fake American Embassy? - Yes, it's true.
- That's incredible. - They even made a fake embassy?
There's a new American Embassy.
It must be busier there than the real embassy.
I wonder what kind of disqualifications Anita would have had?
Why do you think she didn't get the visa?
I can't say since I'm not in foreign affairs.
Actually,
I've seen at the American embassy where only one...
of the married couple got the visa and the other would be crying.
There is an interview at the American embassy.
It's really random.
When I went to the American embassy in India,
I had dyed my hair blonde at the time, and I was asked,
"Why is your hair blonde?"
That was the only question they asked.
I didn't think they'd give me the visa, but the interviewer said,
"Great, you'll get your visa in the mail."
No one believes me when I tell them.
It's a tricky situation because there are...
so many illegal immigrants in the US.
They have to come up with a way to stop that.
Since there is no perfect system,
there are some people who really need the visa...
but don't get it.
I hear Mark is very close with the American ambassador.
- Why don't you ask... - Please give her a visa!
(Mark should correct the matter.)
I also have a visa problem.
Why does China keep refusing to...
assign visas to Norwegians and keeping them from visiting?
- Just Norway? - Yes.
There must be some reason.
The reason is absurd.
In 2010, Liu Xiaobo received the Nobel Peace Prize...
in Norway for his works criticizing...
human rights violations in China, for which he is currently...
being imprisoned in China.
That's why China has been making it quite difficult...
They made it hard for them.
People of Denmark, Finland, and Sweden...
are now allowed to travel China for three days without visa.
The Norwegian government asked the Chinese government...
for explanation for the discrimination.
The Chinese said that they don't like the people and the attitude of Norway.
- Their attitude. - They were friendly before.
Norway even provided financial support for the earthquake in China.
The Chinese government was offended because...
the Norwegian government interfered with internal issues in China.
- I see. - They didn't have to give the award.
They didn't have to do it.
There are multinational committee members of the Nobel Prize.
The committee members select the winner.
It's got nothing to do with Norwegian government.
- But I... - It's got nothing to do with China as well.
Let's say that neither of the nations are related.
(Let's make a peace, since neither of the nations are related.)
(The representatives of each nation met each other eventually.)
(Two nations started to recover their relationship after six years.)
I want to say something to Wang Xinlin.
Please don't occupy job vacancies in other countries.
According to the World Bank report,
about 48 percent of Ghanaian youth is jobless.
Chinese people come to my country.
They occupy job vacancies.
They do not work with Ghanaians.
Please stop coming into my country.
I see that you are talking about job vacancy.
We live in the age without national borders.
- Therefore... - There is no national borders.
Stop thinking that jobs are being taken away by Chinese.
You said not to interfere with internal affairs before.
But now you are claiming for freedom in other countries.
It's not interfering with internal issues of their country.
We are making friends.
We'd like to invest and improve ourselves together.
That's what we intend to do.
About 70 percent of Africans feel positive about Chinese investment.
But only 40 percent of them feel positive about European investment.
Only 40 percent of them feel positive.
- Anita must be one of the 30 percent. - Exactly.
When I talk about this...
Which country is the research done by?
I really want to know.
Anyway, it's what it says in the research.
(It's done by an American research institute.)
- I have some friends working in Africa. - Do you have friends there?
He has friends all over the world.
It's because Africa is full of resources.
They'd trade their oil for highway construction...
because the infrastructure is poor in Africa.
The drawbacks of how Europeans work is that...
they have too much paperwork and discussion.
They would make the contact,
but it takes several years to start the construction.
But the Chinese would start the construction on the next day.
(Chinese would start pouring down concrete on the very next day.)
Let's begin.
Chinese would start working much quicker.
It may take longer for Europeans to start working.
Because the population is small in Europe,
they would employ Africans to do the work.
But there are too many jobless people in China.
So they would bring Chinese workers to Africa,
and return them back when the work is finished.
They'll construct with their own technology and labor.
They would complete the construction,
but there is no benefit to Ghanaians in terms of employment.
Even the Africans have different opinions over this issue...
depending on what they prioritize.
There is a saying that you need to take over Africa to be a strong nation.
Let's have a look back at the colonial period.
England and France, these two people here,
were trying to take over Africa.
China and India are competing over Africa now.
They are competing for resource in Africa.
I think India has advantage over China.
It's because of the remains of the colony by England.
English found it hard to manage the labor in Africa.
They decided to move Indians to Africa...
and made them manage over the Africans.
- Back at the time? - Yes. when the colonial period ended,
the English army retreated from Africa.
The Indians who were taking over the duty of manager...
were able to gain commercial supremacy in Africa.
Chinese have to start their business from the bottom.
But the Indians can easily interact with...
Indian communities that are already established.
Because their business is already stable,
- I believe Indians have advantage. - I think China has made more investment.
They did make more investment.
It's just that India is not that active yet.
- Everything is set up for India. - I see.
When I went to Africa,
there were so many Indians.
- It was very easy for me to work there. - I see.
Anita, do you hate that Western countries...
are interfering with Africa?
There is a French army involved in civil war in Mali.
So I'd like to know what you think about Western countries...
interfering with issues in Africa.
Because there is no problem in my country,
(Because there is no problem in my country...)
we do not need French army.
I want to say something. I recently read an article where...
a French research team forecast...
a big earthquake in Istanbul, Turkey.
There has been many earthquakes in Turkey.
We forecast the earthquake 20 years ago as well.
I wish French to stop being smart.
(Stop being smart.)
Stop putting on airs.
French likes to be smart.
It's just their nature.
- Oh, really? - Yes.
It's in their DNA. There's nothing we can do about it.
That got into me as well, while I was living there for few years.
I became like one of them.
Are you joking around or is that actually true?
Do French people actually like to be smart?
We would be offended if you were pretending to know everything,
but it's okay in France...
because that's what everybody does.
- Goodness. - That's how they talk to each other.
Do they listen to each other?
No. They just talk at the same time.
(No. They just talk at the same time.)
They just show off themselves.
They always think about how to show themselves off.
- I agree with that. - Me too.
I'm getting ready for it.
- Turkey... - You can go first.
How long is Turkey going to keep up with the double gaming?
- Now... - The issue with the immigrants...
Turkey has its own army.
They keep attacking the Kurd...
who are against the ISIS.
- Still? - There's a contradiction.
That's because we are being attacked.
There are many terrors occurring in Turkey.
How can we just stay still? We should be doing something.
I believe that...
there has been 25 terrors in Turkey last year.
- I've experienced a terror attack. - Terror?
A terror occurred at a bus stop, five minutes away from me.
I went to school from the bus stop, on the day before.
It was psychologically distressing.
There is another thing I want to talk about.
European countries say that we are playing...
a double game with the issue of immigrants.
I don't think they are in a position to criticize.
- That's right. - Turkey is severely suffering.
Turkey is a weak country compared to other European countries.
We even accepted refugees...
to feed and support them,
even if we are the one who is suffering.
I don't think it's right to criticize us.
Yes. That's so right. For now...
Then why did you ask that question?
French is completely wrong about the issue with the immigrants.
You asked the question, and now you are saying sorry.
- Self-reflection? - Lebanon is such a small country,
but you can't imagine how many immigrants they have taken in.
European countries are reluctant to take in...
- even just few people. - They don't want them.
European countries complain about it.
I also have a question regarding the double game.
I heard that one side is against ISIS.
But I also heard that...
- another side is supporting them. - There are two parties?
- What do you think about this? - I'm actually too young to know all the details.
What? Why are you talking about age all of a sudden?
Focus on the issue.
Somebody talked about being too old at a hearing in Korea.
Now someone is too young.
I think it's quite complicated.
I have something to say to Japan.
In 80's and 90's,
Japan used to be the global leader.
Japan was such a great nation. Everything was made in Japan.
- I haven't seen something made in Japan for a long time. - Yes.
I think they are lazy these days.
It feels like Japan has become passive.
Accordingly,
Japan has made no economical growth in the past 20 years.
- Zero growth. - No growth at all.
I just hope Japan to be more enthusiastic once again,
rather than just staying settled.
Make your response please.
Frozen dumpling...
Firstly, we will be enthusiastic.
During the early 90's,
we were in the age of Bubble Economy back then.
It was time of expanded economy.
(Stock and land value expanded due to excess investment to real estate.)
But the bubble popped.
The economy collapsed with it.
The big growth we had made...
disappeared with it.
It was hard to find jobs. We call that 20 years,
"20 years that we have lost".
It used to be "10 years that we have lost".
Yes, that's right.
It used to be 10 years.
Then it became 15 years.
Now it has become 20 years.
People say that Abe Shinzo failed with Abenomics,
but there will be a historical moment...
where we can free ourselves from the lost years.
That's what we are looking forward to.
Do you believe in it?
That's what I wish for.
He's the expert of Japan.
I do love Japan,
but I don't believe such a thing.
(Savage words from the expert of Japan)
That's funny.
I worked in Japan, and lived in Japan for six years.
I think Japanese people hate to make changes...
even if there are better ways.
They think, "We've been doing this way for the past 40 years."
"Why should we change this?"
Changes should be made for development.
We used to respect that as mastership.
Now that's becoming a problem.
- Yes. - They don't want new changes.
That's actually a problem.
What is happening is that...
there are many companies coming into Japan from America.
- They would bring in new technologies, - They wouldn't take it in.
but they wouldn't take it in.
- We seem to prioritize stability. - I see.
I have a question...
- about military affairs in Japan. - It's a sensitive issue.
The globe is heading towards multipolarization.
A Japanese official has said that Japan is...
the unsinkable aircraft carrier of America.
The alliance of Japan and America was strong.
Donald Trump claimed...
that America can no longer financially...
support the world order alone.
I'd like to know your military plan...
in the next 10 to 20 years...
as a nation of Asia.
I think Oogi will find it very hard to answer.
- He's Japanese. - I think I'm too young...
(I'm too young.)
You are old enough.
Well...
It's a Self-Defense Force.
Therefore, we find it hard to...
get involved actively.
- They are going to change it though. - Yes, we are trying to change.
It seems like Abe Shinzo wants to...
act as a global leader.
(We never know what will happen.)
(We need to be prepared to keep ourselves safe.)
However, the civilians...
do not agree with his policy.
Many people made objections. They found no reason to take the lead.
Lots of people are worried...
about the war.
I think the conservative swing of Japan is too much.
It's what usually happens...
when the economy starts to collapse.
I think the gap between generations is big in Japan.
We also call it Dankai Generation.
It's those people who are still dreaming about the rapid growth.
As Japan made rapid growth,
they believed that Japan will dominate the world.
I think they are now leading the conservative swing.
- As for the young people, - They are not interested.
I think they simply want to enjoy their lives...
with other young people of the world.
China has something to say.
I think that America should not interfere with...
whatever China does.
In 2017, the world is waiting for the...
One Belt, One Road project.
One belt connects the Central Asia and Europe.
One road connects the Southeast Asia, Europe, and Africa.
It's called the One Belt, One Road.
Why are you talking about it?
Did we do anything about it?
- I mean... - We didn't do anything.
Every time we try to do something, America is...
planning something to stop us.
It's true that America might have objections to certain projects of China,
but we have no objection regarding this project.
- You are a good actor. - It's true.
He would win an Academy Award.
You want America to stop interfering with internal affairs of China.
- Then, I also want to say this. - What is it?
That's right.
China has so much power and money.
Are you sure that China wouldn't interfere in other countries?
You are right.
You can't answer my question.
- I'm too young. - You're a bad actor.
You can't answer me.
We are very worried about the growth of China.
Why are you worried about our growth?
What's really amazing is...
China has already started the construction of One Belt, One Road.
It's only going to take 15 days from Netherlands...
- to Shanghai by train. - They start pouring down cement right away.
It only takes two weeks.
That's really amazing. If this project is successful,
- everybody wins. - Right.
It leads economical growth of China, as well as every other countries involved.
We're talking about One Belt, One Road project.
Some people criticize...
that it's just a modern way of colonization.
Chinese government...
pledged to make...
investment of about 30 billion dollars to...
power stations, real estate, and businesses.
It's what they promised to do.
Those fields are essential to run a country.
The policy allows about 40 percent...
of investment by Chinese.
Some people are criticizing...
that Chinese are trying...
- to take over Malaysia. - They're taking over the infrastructure.
There is a trouble with One Belt, One Road.
- There's a disputed territory between India and Pakistan called Kashmir. - Kashmir.
The railway is going to connect Kashmir...
and Gwadar port through Pakistan.
It's highly likely to cause troubles later on.
This road could be used to...
transport weapons, from the view of India.
We are greatly worried about this matter.
I have something to say to Russia.
Why do Russians keep...
intruding Norwegian sea and air?
Russians move through Norwegian sea and air.
That's how they move in and out.
But they do not inform us. They just go through our territory.
Does that mean...
Russians are ignoring Norway?
Can you please explain about this?
We are not even in a war.
Norway is also a member of NATO.
Is Norway still afraid of Russia, as a member of NATO?
They are not afraid. He just wants to know why Russians intrude Norwegian territory.
Would Russians care if...
a tank of a NATO member intrudes your territory?
Actually,
Barents Sea is a neutral area.
There are so many joint projects going on in the region.
We cannot identify every single one of them.
We are not in a war.
You don't need to worry.
- We might intrude your territory by mistake. - That's actually scary.
We talked over it with Americans.
Three hundred soldiers are sent...
at the border of the Norway to watch over Russia.
- You could simply make a call. - We will do that.
They will make a call.
Easy way to the world peace.
- It looks like Turkey has something to say. - Turkey shot down a Russian aircraft.
- Russian aircraft was shot down? - Yes.
(Turkey shot down a Russian aircraft.)
(They had a dispute regarding intrusion of territory.)
(They must respect that Turkey has the right to watch over its border.)
(It's just like being stabbed by a terrorist.)
Turkey made more than 10 warnings...
for five minutes.
It's what eventually happened...
because they ignored the warnings.
- We had to bring down the Russian aircraft. - It was a serious problem.
First of all...
Really.
Maybe they were on the phone when the Turkish force warned them.
Firstly, we dispatched anti-terror force to Syria.
(Russian forces in Syria)
(Flying between Syrian and Turkish airspace)
That's why we talk about where, when, and for...
how long we will be flying for.
We gave all the information we had to NATO.
So all the NATO nations know about all our plane routes.
Even though Turkey had said that they had given us a warning,
from our perspective,
they never gave us a warning.
- We didn't receive one. - But...
Even if we had intruded in their airspace,
we had only invaded their airspace for 17 seconds.
They couldn't have shot down a plane in 17 seconds, right?
It is a very short time.
What we need to focus on here is,
it's not whether we had invaded their airspace by mistake.
Our plane could have been shot down.
But more importantly, a Russian soldier was shot and killed.
- A Turkish soldier had killed him. - A Turkish soldier didn't kill him.
- You are misinformed about that. - But...
He was killed by a Syrian soldier.
- A Syrian soldier? - A Syrian soldier had killed him.
They found his body on Turkish soil.
- The soldier's body... - That's not what I heard.
was returned to us by Turkish officials.
If it was a Syrian soldier,
- I'm curious to know how Turkey got their hands on his body. - Also,
the US and even NATO agree with Turkey's side of the story.
- They said... - Are you saying whatever the US says becomes the truth?
(Are you saying the US's word is law?)
What do you think about this dispute with Turkey?
In my opinion, the dispute between Turkey and Russia...
is similar to our situation with Japan. There are historical ties as well.
Starting from the Crimean War in which Florence Nightingale was stationed in.
There is a lot of bad blood that goes back a long time between these two countries.
I believe that a certain level of distrust is only normal.
Before Turkey and Russia can become closer,
there are a lot of issues that they need to iron out, first.
Until they solve those issues,
I think that the relationships between the two will continue to be bad.
(A Russian ambassador was shot in Turkey.)
(Gun shots)
(The shooter was identified as a Turkish policeman.)
(This caused even more strain and tension between the two nations.)
Tristan, did you have something to add?
Russia is continuing to expand the sphere of influence.
In Northeast Asia, their military has been strengthened...
as well as in Central Asia.
(Pressuring former Soviet Union countries)
They are doing the same thing in Eastern Europe.
(Pressuring the Crimean Peninsula in the Ukraine)
They are also trying to stretch their sphere of influence to the North Pole as well.
What do you think their goal is?
How large are they trying to grow their sphere of influence?
These territorial disputes are happening...
because we're trying to protect our interests.
It's the same for the UK as well.
If you did something similar to protect your interests, we wouldn't say anything.
This is for the interest of our nation.
I believe that this is normal.
- It sounds very scary when you say it is for the nation's interest. - Yes, it does.
I like this.
Because most US people don't say this.
Are you going to be like this again?
- I'm sorry. - You've chosen the perfect concept today.
I'm just being honest right now.
I'm just being honest. Our country is here.
That's why we acted in that way.
But people in the US say they are doing it for democracy.
- Right. - That's what they say.
That's the problem.
If you are honest with us,
then we could understand.
How do you feel about Russia? It feels like they're expanding your influence.
In the past I also didn't know what Russia was aiming for.
I did have those thoughts, but recently I came across a documentary,
that had Xi Jinping, Prime Minister Modi and...
President Putin together. It was a photo of the three of them together.
The narrator said, these three leaders...
are the heads of half the population in the world...
as well as half the world's economic power.
The moment I saw that,
I started to see what Putin meant by diversification.
He was taking the big pieces...
and put them in a way that was advantageous for Russia.
He already knew what kind of picture he would get.
I realized he might be a very smart person.
If you look at the entire Korean Peninsula,
you have the Pacific Ocean controlled by the US, along with China...
and Russia. Korea is trapped between these three powers, right?
Even though we have Russia on one side,
we don't know a lot about what goes behind there.
When you look at the conflict between China and the US,
you can kind of see how the situation will play out.
Depending on what Russia does,
it will have an enormous impact on Korea.
- Russia has the deciding vote. - Yes.
Yes, they do.
Putin was a spy in the past.
(Whose side is France on?)
- I understand. - That's why he speaks fluent German.
He wasn't a spy. He was a civil servant.
- He was in the KGB. - He was a government official.
- KGB. - What is a Putin calender? Does it sell well?
- Even now? - They're sold out.
Are they sold out?
Yes.
The calender came out.
(Muscluar Putin and thoughtful Putin)
Did you buy one?
(Nodding)
Can you buy that online?
The citizens must really love him.
His approval rate is over 90 percent.
We're worried because of Russia.
- We're worried. - Why are you worried?
Russia shouldn't be so active on the global stage right now.
- What should they be doing? - We have the World Cup happening next year.
You should be preparing for the World Cup.
Russia has never held a World Cup before.
- We won't disappoint you. - Russia is also...
- a country that used to be good at soccer. - Right.
They used to be good but now they are a complete mess.
- They are a mess, so what do you want them to do? - The World Cup is next year,
but they didn't even make it into the UEFA European Championship last year.
- They didn't get out of the group stages. - But,
- where does it say the host country has to be good at soccer? - True.
There are no rules that say that. What about Italy?
Why are you so bad at figure skating?
We're good.
(We're good at figure skating.)
After Kim Yu-na retired, Carolina Kostner is doing well.
We're better than Russia.
- No way. - No, we really are better than Russia.
Since he brought up Kim Yu-na,
Without Kim Yu-na, figure skating...
If you start talking about figure skating, we have a lot to say as well.
I suddenly feel so angry right now.
I'm still very young...
- She suddenly says she's young. - Are you young?
I'm worried that Russia will judge the World Cup the same way.
- Don't worry about that. - Goodness me.
We'll look forward to a fair officiating in the World Cup.
- Olga, we heard that you wanted to say something. - Yes.
I would like to say something to the Japanese representative.
Between Hokkaido and Kamchatka Peninsula,
there are 56 islands between them.
The Japanese keep insisting the four closest islands...
belong to Japan.
Please don't go around saying Russian land is your land.
- Hold on a minute. - There is nothing to hold on about.
The islands belong to Russia.
(It's a fierce start.)
I will listen to what you have to say first.
The islands do not belong to Japan.
After World War Two ended, these islands became the property of Russia.
- Okay, Oogi. - As I understand it, in 1855,
when we made a pact with Russia,
we agreed that the four islands belong to Japan.
After the war ended, the Soviet Union...
started to argue that the islands belong to Russia.
We have been asking them to return the islands.
Hold on. This is not something that we have just started to claim recently.
We won, so we claimed those as ours.
Those islands belong to Russia.
Seung-yeon, do you know a lot about this dispute?
How do you view this from a objective point of view?
- Objectively? - Objectively?
- We can't be objective about this topic. - We have territorial disputes as well.
If Japan says that an island belongs to Japan,
as a Korean don't you want to take the other party's side?
I don't know about the historic details behind the dispute.
But, I don't think Japan would be right.
It's refreshing to hear you say that you don't know a lot about something.
Stop concentrating on the disputes and please focus on the World Cup.
- Gosh. - Stop it. I'm sure they'll do fine.
(His fears for the World Cup are not easily calmed.)
- Let's move on. - Let's discuss this together.
What is a concern that everyone should try to figure out together?
The concern for China in 2017 is...
finding a way to improve air quality.
For us, quality control is the most important issue.
We will no longer be rash in the pursuit of development.
The government announced that they will pursue a safe way to grow.
China holds an important key in solving the environmental problem.
There has been a lot of discussion about whether...
growth is more important than the environment.
However, we haven't been able to feel the effects of these changes first hand.
What is the limit between the environment and economic growth.
I think the first country to crash into this wall is China.
For example when you go to China,
you couldn't drink coffee on a terrace because you didn't have money.
Although they have money to drink coffee on a terrace,
they can't go out and drink because of the dust.
Do you think a solution for this will come out from China?
I'm putting a lot of my faith into China.
It's because for China, this is no longer a problem that they can avoid.
They have to solve this because people are dying due to the dust.
Since this is an urgent problem for China,
I believe that they will be the first to come up with a solution.
I believe in the ingenuity of the Chinese people.
Using the model made by the Chinese as a guide,
I believe that we will be able to form...
the borders of our societal world.
I also would like to see China succeed.
It's because for 25 to 30 years,
we've been talking a lot about protecting our environment.
There has been very little actual progress that has been made.
In the past, Japan also had a lot of factories.
We had a lot of smog in the air as well, but now we've improved that.
It has become a focus for us.
We do hear a lot about how China is effecting our environment as well.
- But I had not been impacted negatively by them. - Japan is an island.
But after coming to Korea,
I realized how serious the fine dust problem was.
I realized this, so I would also like it if China...
could solve this problem as well.
China has there role to play.
- But I believe that India's role is important, too. - Right.
Last year in Delhi, there was a lot of outrage due to the pollution.
So, the schools and factories had to close down for a few days.
I would like the government to come up with a plan to lessen the pollution.
The US also has an important role to play, too.
I also think that the environmental issue is the biggest problem in our generation.
I'm worried that Donald Trump will not focus a lot on the environmental issues.
- I don't think he'll be interested. - When you think about the Paris Agreement,
I thought this was a very important achievement.
President-elect Trump has said that the US might walk away from it.
President-elect Trump has also appointed Myron Ebell to lead...
the Environmental Protection Agency. He doesn't believe Global Warming.
I have a tiny bit of hope...
because recently President-elect Trump...
met with a famous environmental activist.
He met with Leonardo DiCaprio.
He is very active in that field.
The President-elect also met with Al Gore. He is also an environmental activist.
He met with him.
I'm hoping that they were able to influence him a little bit.
- I hope he has an open mind. - Exactly.
I know this is not a nice story but there are so many stories like this out there.
- They asked who President-elect Trump listens to. - Who is it?
The last voice he heard has the most influence.
- But... - Goodness me.
Even the US press writes comments like that.
- The last voice he heard is the most influential. - Yes.
Yes. Since the last voice he heard were from the environmental activist,
I hope that he has been influenced by that.
Lastly, let's try and imagine a better world.
If you could hear one positive news in your country, what would you like to hear?
The news that I'd like to hear in Norway is...
the abolishment of the alcohol tax.
- The alcohol tax. - I would like the alcohol tax to be abolished.
Norway has a great welfare system, right?
Education and healthcare is free.
But a glass of beer costs 15 to 20 dollars.
We use the tax to pay for the free education.
That's how we pay for it.
- You could just stop drinking. - The beer pays for education and healthcare.
Do you drink enough to pay for education?
We work part-time during the week and spend it all on Friday.
Nikolai is in Korea for this reason.
He came here because alcohol costs so much.
(Does he like drinking that much?)
This is fake news,
but Barack Obama is going to be unemployed soon, right?
- Why do you mean unemployed? - He will be when his term is over.
- Yes, that's right. - I would like it if he met with the head of ISIS...
and the Pope. I would like it if they made a coalition for peace.
They could meet with a lot of people.
You'd like them to have a serious talk about peace.
- Yes. - You'd like them to have a proper summit on this.
- Exactly. - He wants a real peace talk summit to happen.
I would like to hear about...
the Chinese soccer team making it into the World Cup.
Didn't they already fail to make it this time?
That's why this is fake.
Goodness.
Since you mentioned soccer, I'd like it if Malaysia...
- Soccer is a very popular sport in Malaysia. - Okay.
I'm sure you know this, but Malaysia...
- used to be fierce soccer rivals with Korea. - Yes, they were.
In the past.
(Let's cheer for these two nations to make it in the new year.)
I did criticize President-elect Trump a lot.
But what I really am hoping for is,
surprising everyone as unlikely as that seems and succeeding.
I would like him to become as popular as President Obama.
I would like him to surprise everyone and succeed. That's what I wish for.
- You want to succeed with whatever he does. - Exactly.
Let's give him a chance.
- Yes. - We should.
Russia has invested a lot of money into our space projects.
So I would like Russia to become a nation recognized for the space program.
- Dreaming of space. - I would like passengers to be able to fly into space...
and go to other planets like Mars.
- I... - The dream of space.
- Let's hear from the Japanese representative. - You said there was no peace treaty,
When you were talking about the national defense.
Yes. I would like it if we could have a peace treaty.
(Peace treaty)
I would like us to get along with each other.
With Olga or with Russia?
(That's...)
- Alberto is sharp. - Wow.
That was a great catch.
- Dumpling Guy. - Dumpling Guy.
The dumpling has burst open.
Olga, you should say something.
You should give him a reply.
Yes, I would like the Japanese and Russian people to get along.
"I would like the Japanese and Russian people to get along."
She cuts him off straight away.
I'm sorry, no.
I'm sorry.
(He's probably off to see the stars soon.)
Instead of news,
there is something I would like to happen in Korea.
Korean's attitude and gaze towards black people...
is different to how they look at other foreigners.
(They are looked at differently.)
When I first came to Seoul,
when Koreans saw my hairstyle,
they would always be shocked.
- Is that your hair? - Do they really do that?
"How do you comb your hair?"
They ask me so many questions.
So I would like Koreans...
to look at black people...
- and other foreigners the same way. - Okay.
Seung-yeon, what fake news would you like to hear in the new year?
I think all Koreans would like to hear the same news, right?
- What is it? - There has been a lot that has happened in Korea.
But through a peaceful process like this,
I'd like it if the bad people got punished one by one.
- And good people were given the spotlight. - Right.
In the next election, I would like this to happen.
Right.
Thank you for those words.
Our 131st Korean representative was Cho Seung-yeon.
We invited representatives from all over the world and...
discussed the trends that could happen in 2017.
Can we keep our expectations high for your third time on our show?
- I'll come if you invite me. - We can have you as a semi-regular member.
If you can explain something simply enough for me...
to understand, that means you're amazing.
Whenever I come on Non Summit Meeting,
I always feel that there is no problem that one country can solve by themselves.
I would like people to watch our program,
and hold a smaller Non Summit Meeting in their own homes.
I think our society would become a better place to live just by doing that.
He's already used the word, "our program".
- He really wants to become a regular. - He's very thankful.
I didn't realize that I had actually said that.
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
Until the day we all become normal
The year 2016 was a year full of pain.
Korea had to endure a lot as well.
I would like the new year to be time for us to heal these hurts.
With this hope,
- Heal the world - Please don't.
Make it a better place
(They couldn't take it anymore, so they turned the music on instead.)
They turned on the music.
(Let's hold each other's hands in 2017,)
(and heal the sufferings and pain in the new year.)
We will now adjourn.
(A discussion to charge for the use of ambulance service in Japan)
(The cost of using the ambulance service thoughtlessly.)
(The cost of calling an ambulance in the US is 2,000 dollars.)
(There are a lot of poor people who can't afford that.)
(Also)
(Guillaume shares a sad and regrettable story.)
(Sobbing)
(The King of parodies, Actor Kim Min-kyo)
(Is it better to look at things long term?)
(Long term does not always mean that you will be successful._
(You need a plan B.)
(You never know when opportunity will knock on your door.)
(Even if you die tomorrow, make an impact today.)
(It's not about living a long time.)
(The 132nd episode, Late Bloomers)
(He wrote "Journey to the West" in his late 70s.)
(He completed the watch after 44 years.)
(It is worth 3.5 million dollars.)
(40-year-old flight attendant challenge)
(A late blooming star's know-how)
(Min-kyo has a sharp tongue.)
(Non Summit Meeting wants to be with you for a long time.)
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